Absurd cases of Abrogation, abrogated ayahs can come after the abrogating one

Quran Self-Combustion Part 4,

Absurd cases of Abrogation, abrogated ayahs can come after the abrogating one!!

In part 3 we saw examples of first type of abrogation and example of it the ayah of adults breastfeeding that disappeared after Muhammad’s death

http://www.islamicbag.com/quran-hadith/qur-anic-studies/item/2233-part3quranselfcombustionabsurdcasesofabrogation-en

Let us remind everyone with the three types of abrogation again

The three types of Abrogation

First: What have been abrogated both lawwise and textwise

Meaning the Ayah was completely abrogated so the law or doctrine came in it is canceled and so is the recite meaning the text of the ayah, so the current Quran will not have this ayah anymore

Second: The text is gone but the law stays

So the doctrine, sharia law or rule exists but the recite or text is gone, not in Quran today

Third: The text exists but the doctrine is not HALAL anymore

So the ayah are in the Quran today but it is abrogated by another ayah in the Quran. So the law or doctrine of this abrogated is not applicable anymore as the abrogating ayah has now an overruling law that canceled the first.

Now in the three types Muslims will claim that a Quran Ayah can only be abrogated by another Quran ayah, so supposedly hadith can not abrogate quran, but is that the case always???? We will talk about that in a near future article

Today we will give you an example of second type an ayah that abrogates another, and of course the Islamic justification for that is Surah 16:101 that Allah can give a temporary law (aka rule or sharia) and then later release another law that is permanent, so the ayah that is abrogated is earlier than the abrogating one. Which means to make sense of all that the abrogated ayah must always come earlier than the abrogating, but is that the case consistently??? The answer is no, we have at least one case where the abrogated ayah came later after the abrogating one, does that makes any sense to anyone????

And here is the case, the abrogating Ayah that came earlier in time than abrogated is

Surah Al-Ahzab 33:52

O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (Sahih international

You, [O Muhammad], may put aside whom you will of them or take to yourself whom you will. And any that you desire of those [wives] from whom you had [temporarily] separated – there is no blame upon you [in returning her]. That is more suitable that they should be content and not grieve and that they should be satisfied with what you have given them – all of them. And Allah knows what is in your hearts. And ever is Allah Knowing and Forbearing.

And the later abrogated ayah is just the next to the next ayah and that is

Surah Al-Ahzab 33:50-51

Not lawful to you, [O Muhammad], are [any additional] womenafter [this], nor [is it] for you to exchange them for [other] wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses. And ever is Allah , over all things, an Observer.

You, [O Muhammad], may put aside whom you will of them or take to yourself whom you will. And any that you desire of those [wives] from whom you had [temporarily] separated – there is no blame upon you [in returning her]. That is more suitable that they should be content and not grieve and that they should be satisfied with what you have given them – all of them. And Allah knows what is in your hearts. And ever is Allah Knowing and Forbearing.

Now to the Muslims that will deny the mainstream Islamic resources of hadith, tafsir and reasons of TANZEL, for those even if you denied everything but the Quran you are in a bigger problem, because those 2 ayahs naturally contradicts each other, should the prophet marry additional wives over his current wives or should he stop????

But in the same time Quran says in Surah Al Nessa 4:82

Do they not, then, ponder about the Qur’an? Had it been from someone other than Allah, they would have found in it a great deal of discrepancy.

And without abrogation we found their is a contradiction

And to the Muslims who will not deny mainstream islamic resources here are those

First: Ibn Kathir concurred that Surah 33:52 was abrogated by Surah 33:50-51

Note that the english translation of Ibn Kathir skipped the part that says what ayah abrogates 33:52 but here is the original reference in arabic and that text highlighted in yellow he says that 33:51 is the abrogating verse though the abrogated came later and concurred that Ibn Hatim and others

Arabic Reference

http://quran.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=221&BookID=11&Page=425

Second: Others confirmed the same like Al Syouity in his Asbab Al Nezoul and Al Qurtobi Tafsir

To be continued ….